EP233: Leadership Doesn't Happen All at Once - Lessons from 30 Years of Toy Story
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When Toy Story came out in 1995, I had just graduated from UW-Stout and started my first corporate job with Hyatt Hotels. I was green, eager, and honestly a little lost — trying to figure out what leadership even meant and who I was supposed to be in that role.
Thirty-one years later, I walked out of Toy Story 5 doing what I always do: making connections to the work I do and the leaders I coach every single day.
And it hit me that Woody's entire journey — across five films, three decades — is a pretty cool portrayal of leadership development!
So let's walk through it together.
Toy Story (1995): Ego Disguised as Confidence
In the first film, Woody is the undisputed leader of Andy's room. Then Buzz Lightyear arrives — shinier, newer, and immediately adored. Woody becomes insecure, schemes to get rid of Buzz, and nearly destroys everything in the process.
By the end, he puts his ego aside and chooses connection over competition.
The leadership lesson: Ego dressed up as confidence is still ego. Real character doesn't show up when things are going well and we're in control of our image. It shows up when our position is threatened, our relevance is questioned, or our sense of self feels unstable.
When Woody stops competing and starts connecting — everything changes.
Where I was in 1995: Brand new to corporate leadership, trying to project confidence while feeling completely unsure. There was definitely some protection of persona happening — wanting to be seen as capable, loyal, successful. It was an identity shift I hadn't fully prepared for.
Toy Story 2 (1999): The Identity Crisis
Woody discovers he's actually a rare, valuable collector's item from a 1950s TV show. He's given a choice: go to a museum in Tokyo where he'll be preserved forever, or return to Andy — knowing Andy will eventually grow up and leave him behind.
He almost chooses the safety of Tokyo. Until Buzz reminds him that the love of a child, even if it ends, is worth everything.
The leadership lesson: Security and comfort can be a trap. When we're afraid or uncertain, the contained and controlled option feels incredibly appealing. But real identity — real confidence — means choosing the uncertain while staying grounded in your purpose and values.
Where I was in 1999: Standing at my own crossroads in Denver, trying to decide between staying in operations leadership (the path I was "supposed" to take) or pivoting into HR — an entirely unknown world. My director of HR was a little like my Buzz Lightyear, helping me see what I was actually built for. I took the leap. It changed everything.
Toy Story 3 (2010): Leading Others Through Endings
Andy is 17 and heading off to college. The toys end up at Sunnyside Daycare — which turns out to be anything but sunny. Through chaos, obstacles, and some genuinely scary moments, Woody leads the whole team back, ultimately landing them with a little girl named Bonnie.
The most emotional of all the films. And the most honest about what leadership in transition actually requires.
The leadership lesson: The hardest thing you'll ever do as a leader is help others through a transition you didn't choose and didn't want yourself. That's servant leadership. That's putting the needs of those you lead ahead of your own grief — while also honoring your own process.
Where I was in 2010: I was a VP of HR with a one-year-old and a two-year-old. My whole identity was shifting. I wasn't just an executive anymore — I was a mother. I was closing one chapter while opening another, and I had to figure out how to lead from that new place.
Toy Story 4 (2019): Real Growth is Subtraction
Woody reconnects with Bo Peep on a road trip and discovers she's built an entirely new life helping lost toys. He starts to realize his own story might be ready for a new chapter — one that doesn't involve being anyone's sheriff.
In the final scene, he removes his badge and gives it to Jessie. Not in defeat. In completion.
The leadership lesson: We talk about growth as adding — new skills, new titles, more responsibility. But sometimes real growth is releasing. Letting go of an identity you've outgrown. And trusting that who you're becoming is worth stepping into.
Where I was in 2019: One year into building Angie Robinson Coaching & Consulting. I had walked away from my executive identity — the ladder, the titles, the corporate path — and chosen my purpose instead. Woody and I were on the same journey that year. I didn't know it until I rewatched the film.
Toy Story 5 (2026): Showing Up Without Needing the Spotlight
Woody is in this film — but in a supporting role. Jessie leads. Woody helps. He doesn't grasp for the center. He doesn't mourn the position he no longer holds. He just shows up, trusts, and contributes.
And that, to me, is the most advanced form of leadership there is.
The leadership lesson: When your confidence is truly internal — when you know who you are without needing external validation — the spotlight becomes optional. You can add value without needing the credit. You can lead without needing the title.
Where I am in 2026: Doing exactly this. Building something meaningful. Coaching leaders into their most authentic selves. Contributing from a place of purpose — not performance.
Your Turn
1995 to 2026 is thirty-one years. That's a lot of chapters.
Grab a piece of paper and map your own timeline. Where were you at each of these movie releases? What were you learning? What were you releasing? What was beginning?
And most importantly — are you at peace with where you are right now?
Because you don't have to have it all figured out. You just have to keep going.
What Do You Think?
Which of these lessons resonates the most with you?
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